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فكريّة زهرة
10-29-2006 19:37, 07:37 PM
I am looking for a system which looses over 90% of this time. You may think I am out of my mind. My intention is to produce counter-direction trades based on that egy and construct a winner although I might be.

Such system should loose 90% of the time when you exchange a fixed lot size (no MM envolved). Additionally, it has to be a very system. I mean it must use rules that are strong .

When I manage to turn everything around, I will write and EA based on the system and then post it intocavemantradingso everybody can enjoy it.


تجارة سعيدة ،
Al

etbs
12-13-2021 06:02, 06:02 AM
No one reply it, sooo, I guess nobody takes it.... Conclusion: a looser egy....
https://www.cavemantrading.com/trading-system-and-egies/26-dollar-vulnerable-result-delayed.html it is basically you are able to calculate maximum margin call until you put bull position. Therefore, if the equitybooked fund is enough, you can't goes bankcrupt. no EA. No thing but money management accompanied with playfull soul, no indior.

محسن عبد الكريم
12-13-2021 07:23, 07:23 AM
Watch if you like the equity curve.
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pablipdveoo
12-13-2021 08:44, 08:44 AM
I considered the idea of reversing my perspective, and have been a really efficient loser in the past. I found it quite usefull. What I did to lose was utilize some false criteria to try and predict the direction of the market. The standards was generally erroneous. I reversed the standards. Component of my effective losing method was that I left winning trades first, and held on to losing transactions in the hope that they would reverse. I had nearly 100% large declines. The answer, or at least AN reply to your quest: Take a great pair such as GBP/USD, which ranges all the time. Determine the length of a fad, say 175 pips. After it's gone 175 pips in 1 direction, enter a transaction far away that a small proportion of occasions will the trend carry into the stop. Stay in the trade before it travels the standard distance from its alteration point (not your entry point). Rationale: I feel that there is a standard distance of traveling in 1 cycle. If one enters only after a long or perhaps quite long move in 1 direction of travel, then waits to depart until one has captured a large but small profit, say 125 pips, then the win rate should be excellent. The stop should be approximately 50 to 100 pips, and also the T/P about 125 to 175 pips. An individual can apply other filters to reduce losses, by 1) delaying entries until the travel is longer and, 2) employing criteria to trigger early exits if the trend is waning. You can also employ tests to delay exits if the trend is strong or a target far away. The results will be greatly enhanced if you monitor the movements on two time frames. Then exchange in that direction if you discover a general trend in 1 direction. When that overall trend has travelled a lengthy way and return to a major barrierundo the directional filter. You can also assess the period of a range jump period to figure out the size and period duration of the consequent trend, based on previous behaviour. Then exchange in the opposite direction of the trend, assuming that the trend is invested, beginning from the far side of the consolidation range, to optimize reward and decrease loss. If there's a consolidation pattern, enter the perimeter only, and put the stop only 25 pips outside the range. There transactions will have rewards and little relative risks. Once the fundamental algorithm is set up, one can examine different variables to optimise performance.

فكريّة زهرة
12-13-2021 10:05, 10:05 AM
Hi, As a newcomer in FX from what I have accumulated on these threads money/risk management is much more important than a'winning' system. Wise choices on how much to risk when trading will ensure your account/acpital is guarded from unprofitable trades but lets you maximise the winning trades. I have mush to learn about this (money management) so if there are any good sites, threads or tips, please discuss them with me. . It would be much appreciated!! Thank you
https://www.cavemantrading.com/attachments/1530473724.pngعيد ميلاد سعيد
لمعرفة المزيد عن إدارة الأموال ، أوصي بالموقع التالي:
http://www.adaptrade.com/Articles/index.htm Good Luck, Al

فكريّة زهرة
12-13-2021 11:25, 11:25 AM
90% lose rate does not mean a system isn't profitable. Most trendfollowers deal with quite high losing percentages but a percent of capital loss, while thier winners are multiples of thier risk. Also, large win percentage systems tend to create a sense of euphoric arrogance that make individuals susceptable to over leveraging it until a blackswan occasion takes them out. What do MA consumers do in choppy markets, if they're any good, they have stopped out a lot and suffer the draw down until they go to a trendy period. They trade a number of markets so that portfolio drawdown isn't as severe as any 1 instrument's. Your time could be more profitably spent, choosing a system that has a winning percentage that is acceptable to your plogy and playing it's cash management/risk management, in my humble view.
I could not agree more. Thank you for sharing your comment that is great with us.
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محسن عبد الكريم
12-13-2021 12:46, 12:46 PM
Yes, I know, and that is part of the reason I had been picking on you in fun. I have English and it's magic that anybody could have more than one language! So, I! I've tried learning Mandarin and Spanish, and the only thing I accomplished was providing speakers a great laugh at my efforts.
https://www.cavemantrading.com/attachments/1529197692.png: Take care Al.. You're all right in my book! Dial EDIT: Corrected spelling of alright to all ideal
Hi Dial, I don't believe he can change the title. To reflect the correct spelling. To all a note: My spouse until this past year was an English instructor and I habitually misspelled loser. So I certainly learned about it. With my wife along with a small freeware program called tiny spell (google it) I am now proud to acknowledge I am a recovering bad speller... My t20 cents, Scott

أمال رعد
12-13-2021 14:07, 02:07 PM
Sorry Dial, English is my second language, you understand.
https://www.cavemantrading.com/attachments/1529197692.pngنعم ، أفهم ، وهذا جزء من السبب الذي جعلني ألتقطك في الاستمتاع. لديّ اللغة الإنجليزية فقط وهو أمر سحري أن أي شخص يمكن أن يكون لديه أكثر من لغة واحدة! لذا أنا! لقد حاولت دراسة الماندرين والإسبانية ، والشيء الوحيد الذي أنجزته ضحكت بشكل جيد على جهودي للمتحدثين.
https://www.cavemantrading.com/attachments/1529197692.png: Take care Al.. You are all right in my book! Dial EDIT: Corrected spelling of alright to all right

فكريّة زهرة
12-13-2021 15:28, 03:28 PM
I'd rather have a tighter method myself.
https://www.cavemantrading.com/attachments/1529197691.png But if you really want to eliminate something, lose the excess o in looser. Just funnin' just a bit with you Al,'cause I like you.
https://www.cavemantrading.com/attachments/1529197691.png Dial
Sorry Dial, English is my second language, you know.
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جبر طيّب
12-13-2021 16:49, 04:49 PM
I am searching for a system which looses over 90% of their time. You may think I'm out of my mind. My intention is to create counter-direction trades based on that system and construct a winner although I might be. This system needs to loose 90% of the time when you trade a fixed lot size (no MM envolved). Additionally, it has to be a very system that is goal. I mean strong rules should be used by it to trade. If I afford to turn everything around, I will write and EA dependent on the system then post it intocavemantradingso everybody can enjoy it. Happy Trading, Al
Hi, I think you aren't considering one variable: quite often is not the system the looser, but our mind. I think that you can reverse but you will be still losing with exactly the exact same system reversed. When we loosewe fear and close the commerce in loss, or worstwe dont want to loose and keep it loosing When we win, we all fear again and close the trade also soon This is the actual issue I guess, if you think that reversing a loosing system will wind up a winner one
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واسع صالح
12-13-2021 18:09, 06:09 PM
2 beginners trading at precisely the moment, exact same pair, one long and one will both end up loosing the commerce.

priegui
12-13-2021 19:30, 07:30 PM
About three years ago I had that method: I moved to a new Forex broker, and there was ADX that I wasn't familiar to, so finally I misinterpreted it, and did everything just reverse; I had been making money like crazy, occasionally, just for the sake of the joke, and it worked; finally I chose to know more about such an awesome index. I realized my mistake, and browse description, so after correcting it and paying attention to crosses, I started to trade the right way in two months there was nothing left in my account. I shall never touch the ADX again (unless the wrong way if I'd recall the settings that I used then). It was ADX signal that I paid attention to and based I'd do just reverse. To put it differently, I sold shirts and buying bottoms like that! You ought to start looking into it.
Here's a hint that goes for everything in your daily life lietuve: If something works fine, don't try to fix it! Only my 2 pips.
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خالد غدير
12-13-2021 20:51, 08:51 PM
Around three years ago I had that system: I transferred into a new Forex broker, also there was ADX that I wasn't familiar with, so somehow I chased it, and did everything just opposite; I was earning money like mad, occasionally, just for the sake of the joke, and it worked; finally I decided to know more about such an awesome index. I read description, and realized my mistake, therefore after adjusting it to configurations of 14 and paying attention to crosses, I started to trade the right way in fourteen months there was left in my account. I will never touch the ADX again (unless the wrong way if I'd remember the settings that I used afterward ). It was only ADX sign that I was paying attention to: everytime it was, and based I would do just opposite. To put it differently, I sold shirts and buying pliers ! You should start looking into it.

fernan4047
12-13-2021 22:12, 10:12 PM
I am looking for a system which looses over 90% of the time. You may think I'm out of my thoughts. I might be but construct a winner and my intention is to create counter-direction trades based on that system. This system needs to loose 90% of the time when you trade a fixed lot size (no MM envolved). It also has to be a very system. I mean rules should be used by it . If I afford to turn all around, I'll write and EA based on the system then post it intocavemantradingso everyone can enjoy it. Happy Trading, Al
Al, For kicks I played with this notion on an EA. It was easier to have it to become profitable during a long term than composing you to become profitable using a winning system. Profitable trading is not simply a notion of entry points, but depart points also. Then everyone would do it, if is do precisely the contrary of what we think and also the notion gets not a losing platform but a winnning system thereby negating the thought anyhow. Just if we sit down to understand the basic laws of trading utilizing supply/demand issues together with willingness to pay prices at certain levels, do we get a concept of possible direction. The ch is, that these amounts are constantly changing. We have to be ready to accommodate (and sometimes fast ) into the new market psyschology. Master this and you master your transactions! Good luck!

obrborgod
12-13-2021 23:32, 11:32 PM
Heh
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أمال رعد
12-14-2021 00:53, 12:53 AM
I am searching for a system that looses over 90% of their time. You may think I'm out of my mind. I could be but build a winner and my purpose is to produce trades based on that system. Such system should loose 90% of the time when you exchange a fixed lot size (no MM envolved). It must be an extremely system that is objective. I mean rules that are strong should be used by it . If I manage to turn everything around, I'll write and EA based on the system and then post it tocavemantradingso everybody could enjoy it. Happy Trading, Al
I would rather have a tighter system .
https://www.cavemantrading.com/attachments/1529197691.pngولكن إذا كنت تريد حقًا أن تخسر شيئًا ما ، فقم بفقدان السوائل الإضافية. مجرد funnin ”فقط قليلا معك آل” لأنني معجب بك.
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طَلعَت هديّة
12-14-2021 02:14, 02:14 AM
مرحبًا ، هل اسم المستخدم Spartan بسبب MSU؟

طَلعَت هديّة
12-14-2021 03:35, 03:35 AM
Hey, try it out, I do not dismiss anything. I just know I have ignored that dude's advice because it was awful. He's not in the company of making money on FX, he is in the company of making money off people seeking to make money at FX. BTW, I have a service that will tell you how to be a millionaire! Think about that statement long and hard...

طَلعَت هديّة
12-14-2021 04:55, 04:55 AM
إذا كنت تريد خاسرًا ، تحقق من نشر علم التنجيم هذا مؤخرًا. إذا كنت تريد فائزًا بالتأكيد ، فلا تستمع إلى الرجل الذي أفهم أنك حصلت على هذه الفكرة منه. لن أنشر اسمه لأنني على وشك الحظر على أي حال ...

paoblote
12-14-2021 06:16, 06:16 AM
من السهل استبعاد فكرته ولكن لماذا لا نفكر في ذلك؟ عندما يوفر نظام إشارات خاطئة أكثر من 90 بالمائة من الوقت حيث ينتظر SL = TP Hmm انتظار. . .هل يجب أن يكون SL = TP 2 × انتشار لجعلها قابلة للعكس لهذا الغرض؟ عندما يكون السبريد 4 نقاط وتريد أن يصبح TP 30 ، يجب أن يكون SL بعد ذلك 38. لذلك إذا كان نظامك خاطئًا 90٪ من الوقت مع TP في 30 و SL في 38 على سبيل المثال ، سيكون لديك نظام يقدم لك الإشارات المثالية 90 في المائة من الوقت عندما تقوم بعكس إدخالاتك. أعتقد أن هذا ما تجاهلته عندما فكرت في نفس الشيء بالضبط من قبل. أعتقد أنه لن يكون من السهل برمجة نظام خاطئ أكثر من 90 في المائة من الوقت مع TPSL المعدل ولكن قد يكون من المثير للاهتمام استكشاف المزيد قليلاً لمعرفة ما إذا كان هناك شيء ينبثق.

نشوى غالية
12-14-2021 07:37, 07:37 AM
لا يعمل مع معظم الأنظمة لأن التوقفات تتعرض للضرب حتى في (ما كان لولا ذلك) الصفقات الرابحة. لذلك لا يزال لديك صعوبة التوقف إذا كنت تقوم بالتداولات.

priegui
12-14-2021 08:58, 08:58 AM
In case you need I have a losing egy that is 100% and it's very straightforward. Only open and close trades untill your account was drained by the spread.... If you can crack this nuts, then you will get richer than you have ever imagened.
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إيمان فهد
12-14-2021 10:19, 10:19 AM
It's not the success you think that it's going to be, but I have attempted, although you would think that doing this type of thing was a no brainer. Just because there is a signal incorrect 90 percent of the time, doesn't mean reversing it will make it as this is all tied up with all commerce managment. To get a shedding system, any older MA system should do.

rudegnobo
12-14-2021 11:39, 11:39 AM
مناقض. كان لدي هذا الفكر يوم الجمعة. هل تعرضت للعض من قبل هذا الخطأ أيضًا؟ الأفكار ليست ملكنا على ما يبدو ولكنها محفز جماعي من نوع ما.

priegui
12-14-2021 13:00, 01:00 PM
Do not we all wish to turn a losing into a winner just by doing the contrary
https://www.cavemantrading.com/attachments/1529197691.png Well, I have done that and I have been making money with no losing month in a year. When I allow an EA exchange for 14, except for the loss september.
https://www.cavemantrading.com/attachments/1529197691.png My mistake was easy to mend after reviewing my own trades. Just let the trades run for two months and add lots while it moves agains me. Risk over 50% of the account and cross your fingers... Joyful trading
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